AO Response from a Veteran's Wife
DEAR xxxxxx, I CAN EVEN ANSWER THIS ONE.
YOU WERE ONE OF THE LUCKY
ONES, THAT ALL xxxxxxx RECORDS WERE AVAILABLE TO YOU. THE MAJORITY OF THE
VETERANS ARE NOT SO BLESSED.
I HAVE SENT FOR xxxxxx’s RECORDS, TWICE NOW. FOR FOUR YEARS, HE HAS GOTTEN 8 PAGES OF INFORMATION. WE MAY BE ENTITLED TO THESE RECORDS BY LAW, BUT WE ARE NOT GETTING THEM! ESPECIALLY THE AIR FORCE AND NAVY.
I BELONG TO TWO THAILAND SITES AND EVERYONE ON THERE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT, "HOW THEIR RECORDS ARE UNAVAILABLE TO THEM.” OUR CLAIMS ARE STILL BEING DENIED!
IT REALLY HURTS ME TO SAY THIS. AFTER GROWING UP AND BEING TAUGHT TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT, I NOW FIND MYSELF, HATING IT AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. FOR THE DISHONESTY, DECEIT, THE COVER-UPS, THE MANIPULATION, THE LIES, AND DECEPTION. OUR GOVERNMENT MADE PROMISES TO THESE GUYS AND GALS, IF THEY WOULD PUT ON THE UNIFORM. THESE PROMISES ARE NOT BEING KEPT.
Taken from the congressional oversight meeting in March of 2000:
Congressman Bernie Sanders - “I would point out that in 1984 a lawsuit was settled, and that it was a very controversial settlement, between Vietnam veterans and the wartime manufacturers of Agent Orange, Dow Chemical, Monsanto, Uniroyal, Diamond Shamrock, et al. What was interesting about that settlement, as many of you know, is that over 200,000 veterans received compensation from the chemical companies for harm resulting from Agent Orange exposure.
Meanwhile, and this is an important point, as of at this point in time of March 5, 2000, according to the VA's own figures only about 7,500 veterans have received service-connected disability compensation from the U.S. Government.”
Now those figures in 2005 have risen to just over 10,000, 21 years later, that are being awarded any form of compensations for toxic chemical damages.
Talk about the government fox (The corrupt VA) guarding the government hen house (The government’s coffers)!!!!!!!!
Over 2.3 million men and women served on the ground in Vietnam with over 21 million gallons of toxic chemicals used in Ranch Hand alone. Yet, to this day we only have 10,000 men and women that could be considered unlucky. Where is the logic? There were only .4 of one percent that had any effects of 21 million gallons of toxic chemicals?????? The odds of that, is like winning the Georgia Lottery 15 times in a row.
So, the men and women serving in Vietnam have not faired much better in this veterans' battle against government collaboration and corruption.
What has our congress done with this known illogical situation? Nothing! Politics and money are more important than Veteran support.
In addition to what this lady is saying regarding the above paragraph that it is not just about compensations. They have known some of the medical issues and not come forward for again, “politics and money.” That folks is not just being stingy using “government corruption and collaboration”; that then becomes in any legal court system – CRIMINAL!
I DON'T CARE, WHAT PARTY YOU BELONG TOO, THEY ARE ALL AT FAULT, FOR WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY. YES, THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION, YES; THEY KNOW WHAT THEY USED AND WHERE, YES, THEY KNOW WHERE ALL THESE SERVICE PEOPLE WERE STATIONED. IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST, TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT. I DO NOT CARE WHAT BRANCH OF SERVICE, YOU WERE IN, AND THEY ARE ALL GETTING THE SHAFT.
THAT INCLUDES xxxxxxxx! I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY. AFTER DOING ALL THIS RESEARCH, THE VETS IN COUNTRY, ALSO GOT SHAFTED. SURE xxxxxx GOT GOOD CARE AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE HEARD FROM YOU, WE ALL FEEL, YOU WERE TRULY BLESSED IN THIS RESPECT. HE WAS IN A SELECT GROUP OF SERVICE PERSONS THAT THE GOVERNMENT, THREW A BONE TO. THE REST AT THAT TIME GOT NOTHING.
NOW THEY HAVE TO FIGHT, FOR WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS, BY RIGHT OF WEARING THAT UNIFORM. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS TURNED THEIR BACKS AND ARE SAYING YOU DON'T COUNT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES, I HAVE READ OR HEARD, THE RECORD NUMBER OF THAILAND VETS, PASSING AWAY.
FROM THE SAME THINGS, THE VIETNAM VETS ARE ALLOWED, ON THE APPROVED LIST. THEY ARE SUFFERING AND DYING, FROM THE SAME THINGS AND THEN SOME. THAT APPROVED LIST, IS A JOKE!
ANOTHER THING, THAT UPSETS ME, IS THIS SEPARATION OF COUNTRIES. THEY HAVE CLASSIFIED THEM AS VIETNAM, THAILAND, LAOS, AND CAMBODIA, ETC. EXCUSE ME! THIS WAS A WAR IN SOUTHEAST ASIA AND SURROUNDING COUNTRIES, WHO SUPPORTED OUR EFFORTS, IN THAT WAR. THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE ACTUAL FIGHTING, BUT THEY WERE INVOLVED NEVER THE LESS. THESE AREAS WERE STILL IN THE COMBAT ZONE. THESE MEN AND WOMEN, WHO WERE IN THESE AREAS, WERE BACK UP AND SUPPORT, TO THOSE WHO WERE FIGHTING VALIANTLY, IN VIETNAM. WHY HAS THE GOVERNMENT, DEEMED THEM, AS NOT INVOLVED? ONE WORD. MONEY!
I HAVE HEARD IT SAID, THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS TO ADMIT, TO INCLUDING ALL THESE SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN, THIS COUNTRY WOULD GO BANKRUPT. SO WITH THAT SAID, IT IS DENY, DENY, DENY, DENY AND DENY. WELL, I'M SORRY, THEY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS YEARS AGO AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN. NONE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAS HAD THE BRAINS ENOUGH, TO THINK OF A WAY TO FINANCE AND TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR PROMISES.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS REALIZED, THAT THE PROBLEM IS TOO BIG TO HANDLE. THEY DON'T CARE, THAT THESE MEN AND WOMAN, ARE DYING BY THE THOUSANDS, EACH AND EVERYDAY. LEAVING WIVES AND FAMILIES, WITH NO MEANS OF VIABLE SUPPORT. THEY ARE ONLY GETTING A PITTANCE, OF WHAT THEY SHOULD OR IF ANYTHING AT ALL.
WHEN I WENT TO THE MEMORIAL SERVICE AT THE VA, FOR xxxxxxx’s HUSBAND IN 2003 AND THEY CALLED OFF THE NAMES IN REMEMBRANCE. THERE WERE A WIDE VARIETY OF MEN, WHO SERVED IN THE DIFFERENT WARS. THEN WE WENT TO xxxxxx’s HUSBAND xxxxx’s MEMORIAL SERVICE. I COULD NOT GET OVER THE DIFFERENCE. 95% OF THE NAMES, WERE VIETNAM VETS. THERE WERE ONLY ONE OR TWO, FROM THE OTHER WARS. I DIDN’T KNOW THEM AND HAD JUST MET xxxxx. YET, I SAT THERE AND CRIED. KNOWING THAT EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM DIED BEFORE THEIR TIME, DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT AND WHAT THEY DID TO THEM. LEAVING WIDOWS AND FAMILY, LIKE xxxxxx.
TIMES ARE DIFFERENT! THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. WHAT MAY HAVE WORKED IN THE EARLIER DAYS, DOES NOT WORK NOW. IT IS A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME AND THE GOVERNMENT IS WINNING!
INSTEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT PROVING YOU WRONG, ITS YOU PROVING THE GOVERNMENT WAS. OUR PAPER TRAILS HAVE BEEN DENIED TO US. SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH ALL THIS PAPERWORK, BUDDY LETTERS AND THE SUCH, TO PROVE OUR POINTS. EVEN NOW, WITH TRYING TO GET THE THAILAND VETS RECOGNIZED, WE ARE HAVING TO JUMP THROUGH THEIR HOOPS.
THE GOVERNMENT IS STILL PUTTING ROADBLOCKS IN OUR WAY AND THIS IS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO PUSH THE ISSUE FORWARD. THEY ARE TELLING US, THEY WON'T ACCEPT THIS OR THAT. BUT IF YOU GET US THIS, THEN WE WILL CONSIDER IT. YOU MAY ASK WHY, THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE. MONEY!!!!!!
Yes, it is all about money. Yet, our government can afford to support 11 to 15 million illegals not only with better on demand health care, but a life time of instant gratification social care for the entire family. "Social Care" = a rose by any another name is still WELFARE!
Maybe we should demand that the politicians of our nation compare the cost of supporting Veterans for what they did for the nation - versus supporting entire families of individuals who are not even supposed to be here for generations. The "return on investment" is of course purely political. As this wife points out the government does not treat Veterans and their families as a united single segment of society. It is time we made it so!
Maybe we should ask our politicians just when it is that a new unchallengeable legal system for just illegals as they have set up for the Veterans of the nation will be established. A legal system that is outside the constitution of the United States. Why would illegals not be given the protection of our own constitution while Veterans and their families are not entitled to the same protection from government corruption and collaboration? Because the legal system and all these civil liberty groups would not allow it. Yet, for the Veteran and the Veteran family there is no such outcry. Only government corruption and collaboration awaits them by our own government.
Time all past, present, and future Veterans and their families know exactly what awaits them as the government sets aside their rights as citizens.
In that light, I hope to participate in an 11th Circuit Court suit that will demand that those now in the military before reenlisting or initially entering the military be advised of their loss of protection of the constitution guaranteed to all even after receiving an honorable discharge. That they are indeed set aside as no longer an American Citizen with any rights no matter what the DOD/VA did or does to them.
One government scientist in March of 2000 stated before the oversight committee that if the word ever gets out regarding the treatment of Vietnam Veterans and Gulf War I Veterans this will become a National Security Issue.
Past time we made it one.
THE MORE THEY
CAN DELAY ALL OF US, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THEM. THEY ARE WAITING FOR ALL OF
US TO JUST QUIT AND WALK AWAY. THE MORE THEY THROW AT US, THEY ARE WILLING TO
BET, THAT YOU WILL JUST GO OFF AND DIE SOMEWHERE. THEN IT IS JUST ONE MORE IN
A THOUSAND, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANYMORE. SAD TO SAY AND IT IS
HAPPENING. THE VETERANS ARE DISCOURAGED, ANGRY AND THEY DON'T TRUST ANYONE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE NO LONGER PURSUING THEIR CLAIMS.
WE AS A GROUP, NOT ONLY THE VET WIVES, BUT THE OTHER VETS, THE ORGANIZATIONS, ETC, HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER AND STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
WE ARE ALL BEING PITTED AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, WE ARE BEING DIVIDED. THIS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN! ALL BRANCHES AND ALL WARS NEED TO UNITE. ALL OF US ARE LIKE IN THE LOTTERY SYSTEM, SOME WIN AND SOME LOSE. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!
THESE MEN AND WOMEN PUT THAT UNIFORM ON WITH HONOR, TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY. THEY KEPT THEIR END OF IT AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO STAND UP AND KEEP ITS PROMISES TO THEM AND WHEN ITS SAYS "WELCOME HOME,” REALLY MEAN IT!
AMEN TO THIS LADY’S WRITE UP SHE IS RIGHT ON!